To say we have part one of the diagnosis is a good thing, but to have been working as long as we have to get a diagnosis, and still not have a complete one is frustrating. Considering that the news we’re learning is not all we’d hoped for, the longer it drags out the more frustrating it becomes.
When Terry saw the local surgeon last week who believes the thyroid is connected to the functioning adrenal gland, we felt he was on track to something that would prove conclusive. At the appointment with him today, we found the thyroid biopsy results were not yet in. He told us he had attempted to contact the oncologist to speak with him directly, but could not get a call back.
Even more evidence of how convoluted and confusing this experience has become came when he told us he’d spoken to the primary care physician who had made the original referral to the KU Med system. Our PCP had no clue of any of what was happening, but as soon as the surgeon started giving him lab results, he realized what was going on immediately.
This is where it starts to get complicated, so bear with me….
The labs Terry had showed that all hormone levels were outside the normal range. They were all too high, and adrenalin in particular was very elevated. This proved to him that while the adrenal gland mass was non malignant, it was functional. Because of the continued increase in hormones, Terry had developed secretions called calcitonin or c cells. These c cells create a pheochromocytoma, or tumor in the thyroid the surgeon thinks is causing medullary thyroid cancer.
There are two reasons this matters. First, it compromises his ability to safely get through whatever surgeries come his way. There is already discussion about removing the thyroid and prostate, but before he can endure those two procedures he needs to have the adrenal gland mass removed so he is not bombarded with increased hormones when his body is stressed from surgery. The second reason it matters what kind of cancer this is is the medullary thyroid cancer is more aggressive than more commonly diagnosed thyroid cancers. This strain can spread early in the disease process, so it needs to be addressed before it does that kind of damage.
After his appointment, I did get a call from the oncologist’s office who confirmed the biopsy showed malignancy. I told her what the surgeon had to say and that he had tried calling the oncologist, but it turned out he’d been on vacation. (That’s two of the doctors Terry needs who are/were on vacation…I’m trying to be mindful of the fact these doctors deal with hardcore stressful situations, but it doesn’t make my situation any less stressful to be in a constant holding pattern trying to figure out what’s going on with Terry.) I called the surgeon’s office to inform them the biopsy was positive, but they weren’t saying it was medullary cancer. He was going to call the oncologist and confer with him because he is convinced the oncologist is not seeing the total picture. In the meantime, there is an appointment scheduled for Monday with the urologist who will do the biopsy, and what eventually may be the prostate removal. None of that starts until after the biopsy, which is at LEAST another week away.
Interestingly, Terry got a number from the national cancer website and called and talked to someone. He, like I, is concerned they are going to find more. He wanted to know how early it is that you can track these cells that either metastasize or create malignancies, but they couldn’t answer his question. Earlier we had discussed how confusing it is to think about what it is we want to be told is going on now that we have confirmed the presence of cancer in at least one of the two sites. We literally have no idea where we’re headed. Yet. We’re hopeful each new appointment will yield insight, but they mainly serve to let us know we don’t know much. Yet.
He also had an appointment yesterday with his cardiologist who reminded us his heart is still in tough shape. His ejection fraction is fairly consistent in the 20% range now. The cardiologist did not feel that would change much, but Terry did need to do what he needed to do to keep it from going down any more. He was a bit surprised, as I think we all are, that Terry is going through yet another life compromising health situation.
So, next week brings consultations with the urologist, the oncologist, and hopefully the scheduling of both his biopsy of his prostate, and removal of adrenal gland mass. That would certainly feel like movement in the right direction!
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Seriously???
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggg!!! Now that I have that off my chest….
This is getting more convoluted as the process wears on. Terry met with the surgeon who is going to do his colonoscopy yesterday, and he put an entirely different spin on this than the oncologist has. It’s becoming more and more difficult to accept what we’re told because it keeps changing. I just want them to know without a doubt what we’re dealing with, so we CAN deal with it.
This is what we thought we knew: Terry has a total of three masses. One in the prostate, one in the thyroid, and the mass that started it all, in the adrenal gland. He met with the gastroenterologists last Tuesday, and they talked about the need to focus on the prostate, as the adrenal mass was determined to be non malignant. When he met with the oncologist two days later, he confirmed that the prostate was the primary concern. He would be referred to a urologist for follow up with a biopsy.
So, he met with the surgeon yesterday, and he was VERY enlightening. From HIS perspective, the immediate issue is the functioning adrenal gland tumor. While it’s not malignant, which is evidently why the oncologist wasn’t concerned, it is functioning, and may be overproducing the hormones which may have led to the thyroid mass. Lab results from blood work they did showed elevated levels of multiple hormones, so there is no question to the surgeon that the adrenal mass is functional. I’m not sure why the gastroenterologists and the oncologists didn’t catch it, but I’m thankful he did. He was able to tie things together as no one else has. The scary part, but he didn’t seem to be concerned about, is the fact that Terry may legitimately have 3 different issues going on.
He believes the prostate cancer and the thyroid cancers are not related. Meaning he does not believe the thyroid metastasized from the prostate, but is a separate cancer from the prostate. I’m not sure at this point that I find it more reassuring than not that he might have multiple cancers at the same time, as well as a malfunctioning adrenal gland. The ray of hope in all of this is that where the cancers have been located so far, the glands themselves can be removed. They can remove the prostate, the thyroid, and the adrenal gland. I would assume that potential and opportunity does not always present itself.
I want to believe we are moving in the right direction, but can’t shake the concern about the pain he’s had for so long. We’ve had lots of conversations lately, and he understands I do not want what we ultimately find to be a terminal condition for him, further reducing his life span. But I do feel it’s my responsibility as his wife to make sure they haven’t missed anything. Until they tell us they’re 100% confident they’ve located and removed all cancers, and treated anything else that can be to make him feel as comfortable as possible, I’m not willing to back off and breathe any sighs of relief. Trusting doctors has not worked very well for him in this particular situation, so until we’re officially through this situation, I remain on high alert.
This morning was the biopsy on the thyroid. In 3-5 days he should have results back. We’ll have a better idea then if the local surgeon has figured out what the other doctors and professionals have not. All we want is answers and treatment. That’s not asking for much. Is it??
Can We Change Our Order, Please?
After literally years of not knowing what was wrong with Terry, we may finally be on to something. The scary part is now that we are learning, the inclination is to want to go back to the days of ignorance and frustration when we were clueless.
Now, after three weeks of knowing there was a mass in his adrenal gland, we are finally confronted with the “C” word that each family dreads. Today the use of words like “inconsistencies” and “mass” and “abnormality” were replaced with the word “cancer.” And even though he had willingly and openly been talking with me about the possibilities of what he was facing, when he met the reality of that possibility, it was obvious he had hoped the news would be different. He became very quiet once we left, and trying to force meaningless chit chat just for the sake of doing it seemed wrong. I know how far away in thought I’d have been, and knew it was a lot for him to process.
We still don’t know a lot, but this is what we know. It is pretty certain there is prostate cancer due to enlargement, increased PSA reading, PET scan result, and physical examination. There is also a nodule on the right lobe of the thyroid that showed metabolic activity during the PET scan. He needs to have biopsies of both locations. The mass in the adrenal gland that started all of this did not show activity during the PET scan, and even if it had, it is still too small for them to deal with at this stage. It is less than 2cm, and may have to get closer to 4 for action.
Today was the beginning of figuring out what is going on and what he needs. But unless things change, he won’t see the urologist who will do the biopsy, until May 10. Not that he will have the biopsy on May 10. That’s when he sees the doctor who will DO the biopsy. Even though the oncologist explained the procedure today, and why he needs to have the biopsy and not just rely on the other markers was covered as well, he still has to have a conversation with the other doctor. It’s hard not to see this as more delay, when there has been so much delay already in his diagnosis.
The purpose of the biopsies are to show the stage and aggressiveness of the disease. We were told prostate cancer metastasizes FROM not TO the prostate, so they need to make sure this is the primary location. He is still on track to have a colonoscopy, so hopefully they aren’t going to find that it’s gone anywhere else.
While I’ve always believed information is power, I may have to stop doing research and looking into what this all means until we have more complete information. I still maintain I’d rather be prepared for the worst, and hear the better news, than the other way around, but I’m reading too much and learning too much and it’s a bit overwhelming. And scary….I need to walk the tightrope of trying to understand what we’re in for without falling the long fall of “what if?”…that fall is too, too far down….and we’re just starting to inch ourselves out onto that rope. We have to be steady for now. It’s hard to believe we wanted to know all of this not so long ago….

